Add IPT/VAT for Admin Fees

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    Colin Kippin

    E Mail sent to all sites to gather further input and create a discussion on this important topic

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    Kate Huét

    Yes this is a highly complex area. It is dependent upon the client type and the type of insurance. HMRC give full guidance on this on their website.

    We treat this as follows, maybe it will help other Schemeserve users:

    We collect a Policy Fee after the Premium and IPT on the premium has been calculated in the matrix page. The Policy Fee we always detail in the documents as being inclusive of IPT.

    Outside of schemeserve we calculate the amount of IPT that has been collected within the Policy Fee and remit this ourselves as the Broker to HMRC. We do not send the IPT on the Policy Fee with the Insurer Premium to the insurer as we do with the IPT on the Premium.

    There is a further issue, which Schemeserve does not address at all with regard to IPT. This is on discounted Policies - if a Policy is discounted using a tactical discount field on the Matrix Page then the IPT is supposed to be calculated based on the premium before a discount has been applied. This has to be manually adjusted in order to be correct.

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    Mark Williams

    As far as I am aware the legislation only applies in certain circumstances which will not affect us. It is being introduced to stop aggregation sites selling policies at cost and grossing up with a fee. This was deemed to be a way to avoid IPT.

    If any changes are made to schemeserve they will need to be optional i.e. a tickbox to indicate whether IPT should be charged on fees.

    I would stress that this is my understanding and would welcome correction if I have the wrong end of the stick.

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    John Levett

    I suppose that this could be resolved by secondary calculations and one off calcs in the documents as per Kate's suggestion but I am a firm believer in having the system store as many of the calculated figures as possible for ease of reporting. 

     

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    Permanently deleted user

    Maybe it is the programmer in me speaking here, but we have recently had to generate variable handling of fees, IPT and other "costs" as part of our Taxi scheme. This was done with the help of the guys here, and we were able to control these things within the matrix. While this may end up with static data within the matrix it does make it controllable from our point of view, and far more flexible if the rules are different for New Biz, Renewals MTA etc, and also allows variable handling within each different scheme.

    I maybe over complicating things... but Colin asked for input.

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